27th Parliament · 2nd Session
Mr SPEAKER (Hon. Sir William Aston) took 1 chair at 2.30 p.m.
Mr Cope - lt is a good day for a prayer.
Mr SPEAKER-Order! 1 suggest that the honourable member observe the usual courtesies of the House when the Speaker is on his feet and I would thank him not to interrupt before prayers on any other day.
Mr Speaker read prayers.
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– Mr Speaker, as honourable members will probably know, there has been a change in the leadership of the Parliamentary Liberal Party since the House met yesterday. In the light of this change I shall be in touch with His Excellency the Governor-General to tender my resignation as Prime Minister and to offer him certain advice as to whom he should give the commission to form a new government. In the meantime in these circumstances I suggest that the House should adjourn until next Monday.
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Motion (by Mr Garton) proposed:
That the House, at its rising, adjourn until Monday, 15th March 1971, at 2.30 p.m.
– The Australian Labor Party supports the motion. It is clear that there must be a proper procedure for installing a new Prime Minister and Ministry. All I need say at this time is that the permutations of personalities do not end the difficulties of the last few days. These are matters not just for any party but for the Parliament and for the people, whose opinions upon them should promptly be sought.
- Mr Speaker, last night-
Motion (by Mr Snedden) proposed:
That the question be now put.
– You are gagging the Parliament.
-Order! If the honourable member for Newcastle continues to interject I will deal with him. The question is that the question be now put. Those of that opinion say ‘Aye’.
Government supporters - Aye.
– Those to the contrary say ‘No’.
Opposition members - No.
– Is a division required?
Opposition members - Yes.
– What is the motion?
-The motion is that the question be now put. Do you want a division?
– Yes, on the gag, but we will support the motion.
Question put:
That the question be now put.
The House divided. (Mr Speaker - Hon. Sir William Aston)
AYES: 62
NOES: 58
Majority . . . . 4
AYES
NOES
Question so resolved in the affirmative.
Original question resolved in the affirmative.
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Motion (by Mr Snedden) proposedThat the House do now adjourn.
)- Mr Speaker-
– We must listen to his grey eminence.
– My colleague, the right honourable member for Melbourne, has a long and distinguished record which could well be the envy of anybody in this House and he has never been reticent when he has thought that he had to say something on behalf of the parliamentary institution. Today we have seen a most incredible exhibition of what might be called parliamentary musical chairs, with this institution being used for the in-fighting of the Liberal Party. I believe, and I say this emphatically, that it is a disgrace that at this hour, with no Minister for Defence, with the whole place in disarray and with the country needing guidance of any sort, we should close down for 3 parliamentary sitting days.
Question resolved in the affirmative.
House adjourned at 2-.41 p.m. until Monday, 15 March at 2.30 p.m.
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The following answers to questions upon notice were circulated:
asked the Minister for Foreign Affairs, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
Australia’s Governor of the Asian. Development Bank, forwarded a formal application for membership to the President of the Bank on behalf of Papua and New Guinea.
asked the Minister for Foreign Affairs, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
The numbers of non-European students other than private students who were in Australia as at the 31st January, are set out in the tables below. About half these students are attending Australian academic institutions. The rest are either undertaking special training programmes arranged for them or are attending one of the International Training Courses conducted by my Department.
asked the Minister. representing the Minister for Housing, upon notice:
Has the Department of Housing yet made any checks of. interest rates charged on second mortgage loans obtained by applicants under the Home Savings Grant Scheme.
– The Minister for Housing has provided the following answer to the honourable member’s question:
No. Because information about the terms on which an applicant obtains finance to acquire his home is not needed to determine his eligibility under the Homes Savings Grant Act’ it is not sought by the Department, nor is it usually supplied.
askedthe Minister representing the Minister for Housing, upon notice:
– The Minister for Housing has provided the following answer to the honourable members question:
asked the Prime Minister, upon notice:
What is the number of existing Boards and Committees which have been established -
What are the (a) names, (b) salaries and (c) terms of office of the Members of these Boards and Committees.
– The following information has been provided by the relevant Departments as at 19 March 1970: (1)(a) 176; (b) 124.
Note (1) The term ‘standard daily silting fees’ refers to the maximum daily rates approved for payment to part-time members of Boards and Committees (but see also Note 2).
The current standard daily sitting fees are:
Short term Boards - Chairman $45; Members $40.
Continuing Boards - Chairman $40; Members $35.
For meetings of less than 3 hours duration - Chairman $25; Members $20.
Note (2) No fees are paid to any public servants, Service officers or Members of Parliament who are members of the Boards and Committees listed.
Note (3) This schedule does not contain details of-
Interdepartmental and intradepartmental Boards and Committees of which all the members are Commonwealth public servants and/or members of the armed forces.
asked the PostmasterGeneral, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
Papua and New Guinea: Investments by Superannuation Funds (Question Nil. 2410)
asked the Minister for External Territories, upon notice:
Has either the Superannuation Fund or the Contract Officers’ Retirement Benefits Fund in the Territory of Papua and New Guinea yet invested in Territory industries or housing (Hansard, 3rd June 1970, page 2905).
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
Neither Fund has invested in Territory industries nor directly m housing. Both Funds invest in public Loans of the Territory which are used to finance public works and services including housing.
asked the Prime Minister, upon notice:
Will .he state the date of the establishment of those interdepartmental committees which have been established since he became Prime Minister (Hansard, 12th June 1970, page 3674 and 20th October 1970, page 2528.) or failing that, those which have been established in 1969-70.
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
I do not believe that the provision of these details would serve any useful purpose; to supply such information would place an unreasonable workload on the Public Service.
asked the Treasurer, upon notice:
On what dates have Treasury officials conferred with State officials concerning a new Commonwealth Insurance Act.
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
Meetings were held in Canberra on 9th October, 3rd and 18tb December 1970.
asked the Treasurer, upon notice:
What has been the (a) date and (b) outcome of consultations between the Reserve Bank and the Australian Finance Conference since his predecessor’s answer on 26th August 1969.
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
The Reserve Bank has provided the following information:
41h March 1970. 6th October 1970. 18th February 1971.
A useful exchange of information and views on economic and financial conditions and prospects.
asked the Treasurer, upon notice:
– The answer to the honour* able member’s question is as follows:
asked the Treasurer, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
asked the Treasurer, upon notice:
What total amount was paid in wages . and salaries throughout the Commonwealth in each of the last 5 years for which figures are available.
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
Estimates of Wages, Salaries and Supplements are published by the Statistician regularly in Quarterly estimates of National Income and Expenditure. Excluding the supplements component the last published estimates are:
Revised estimates are currently being prepared and will be published shortly.
asked the Treasurer, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
asked the Treasurer, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
However, on the basis of estimated numbers of widow and invalid pensioners with means as assessed in excess of the’ ‘ minimum taxable income, it is considered that the cost to revenue of applying concessions similar to the age provisions to persons in receipt of widow and invalid pensions would not be likely to exceed $lm.
I should add that if such a concession were to be granted on the same basis as the age allowance, it would apply not only to persons in receipt of pensions but also to persons qualified by widowhood or invalidity but not in receipt of social welfare pensions on this account.
asked the Treasurer, upon notice:
What financial assistance has been given by the Commonwealth within the Commonwealth and the Territories for the preservation of buildings or the like for historical purposes or for tourism.
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
The Commonwealth is a substantial owner of buildings of historic and aesthetic interest for which there is still a functional requirement. It is not practicable to separate from the total expenditure on such buildings the cost of their preservation per se. As well, the Commonwealth has also spent some $108,000 up to 30th June 1970 for the restoration of buildings for historical purposes and for tourism at Norfolk Island, and in the past 5 financial years, about $69,000 for the preservation of historic buildings in the Northern Territory.
While recognising its responsibility for the preservation of Commonwealth-owned buildings of historic interest, the Commonwealth Government, as a matter of policy, has not provided financial assistance towards the preservation of other buildings of historic or aesthetic importance. The Commonwealth, however, makes a general grant of $5,000 per year towards, the administrative costs of the Australian Council of National Trusts which is the central body in this field. In addition, the Commonwealth has recognised the value of the work being done by the National Trusts in each State in this direction, by granting them the benefit of concessions under the income tax and estate duty laws.
asked the Minister for the Army, upon notice:
How many Australian soldiers have been killed or injured by Australian mines replanted by their adversaries in Phuoc Tuy province.
– The answer to the hon ourable member’s question is as follows:
The mines used by the Australian Force in Vietnam are mainly of the United States M16 type. Any M16 mines used by the enemy in Phuoc Tuy Province could have been obtained from a number of sources as this mine ls the only one commonly used by all forces, including local
Vietnamese security forces throughout Vietnam. In addition, the Vietcong has its own supply of mines from outside Communist sources and from local manufacture. It is not possible to assess the type and origin of every mine or booby-trap detonated during operations and therefore the number of M16 mines used by the enemy, and the source of their supply, is unknown.
Australian Council for the Arts (Question No. 1356)
asked the Prime Minister, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
The Council has provided the following information concerning organisations and individuals who have received support and the amount of the subsidy in each case.
In respect of the Special Projects Fund only the total allocation has been given: details of the grants made from the Special Projects Fund have been furnished separately in answer to Question No. 1237.
asked the Minister for Education and Science, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
In this country such people are served by the external studies available at a number of universities, though students are normally expected in Australia to have the formal academic qualifications for embarking on university work. 1 am aware that some States are well provided in that respect, others are not. It is the policy of the Commonwealth to encourage tertiary institutions to make available external studies and the Commonwealth has demonstrated its interest in the matter by adopting in 1969 a recommendation made by the Australian Universities Commission that the grant to a university in respect of each external student enrolled should be doubled.
It remains to be seen whether the lack of formal academic qualifications will prove to be a severe handicap to people enrolled in the British Open University, but failure to progress adequately is, I understand, to be a bar to continuation of studies.
I shall watch the progress of the Open University with interest, particularly to gauge whether such a service can be successful.
Australian Council for the Arts (Question No. 1237)
asked the Prime Minister, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
Dr H. C. Coombs, M.A., Ph.D, F.A.A. (Chairman)
Mrs J. D. Bradley, M.A.
Mr T. C. Bray, C.B.E.
Mr H R. Bonython, D.F.C., A.F.C.
Mr Peter Coleman, B.A., M.Sc., M.L.A.
Mrs V. J. Erwin, B.Sc, M.A.
Mr Peter Hall, B.A., B.Arch., F.R.A.I.A.
Mrs H. W. Houghton. B.A.
Mr Barry Jones, M.A., LL.B.
Professor K. C. Masterman, C.B.E., M.A., F.A.C.E.
asked the Prime Minister, upon notice:
What conferences of Commonwealth and State Ministers and officials have taken place since those listed in his answer of 12th June 1970 (Hansard, page 3619).
– The answer tothe honourable member’s question is as follows:
I regret that it is considered too much of an administrative burden and one which would not serve any useful public purpose to continue the practice of supplying information of this kind.
Commonwealth Office of the Environment and National Advisory Council (Question No. 2695)
asked the Prime Minister, upon notice:
On what dates has (a) he written to each Premier and (b) each Premier written to him concerning the proposed Commonwealth Office of the Environment and National Advisory Council.
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
See my answer to Question No. 1870 (Hansard, page 473).
Railways: Sydney-Perth Service (Question No. 2702)
asked the Minister for
Shipping and Transport, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
asked the Minister for Shipping and Transport, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
asked the Minister for Ship ping and Transport, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
asked the Minister for Immigration, upon notice:
Can he supply any information as to the present whereabouts of Henry Znaty who was deported to Morocco following a High Court judgment.
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
HenryE. Znaty entered Australia on 28th October 1970- as a visitor, holding a valid Moroccan passport showing him to be a Moroccan national. Subsequently it was learned that he was convicted in Switzerland in 1967 for fraud, sentenced to 12 months imprisonment and banished from Switzerland for 10 years; and that in 1969 he was convicted in France for swindling and sentenced to 9 months imprisonment and 5 years prohibition of residence. I ordered his deportation on 26th November. Action to prevent his deportation was taken by him in the Supreme Court of New South Wales and then before the Full Bench of the High Court; but without success. On 20th December 1970 he was placed on board an aircraft travelling to Rome with a ticket to Morocco. On arrival in Rome the authorities there supervised his. transfer to another aircraft travelling to Morocco.
I have no knowledge of his present whereabouts.
asked the Minister for Immigration, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
asked the Minister for Immigration, upon notice:
What was the:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
The following 5 tables give the information requested by the honourable member in relation to the number and nationality of persons deported from Australia in the years 1966 to 1970, and the reasons for the deportation in the categories:
asked the Minister for Immigration, upon notice:
How many non-European migrants have been granted naturalisation in each year since March 1966 and what is the total to date?
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
The number of non-European residents of Australia who were granted Australian citizenship by naturalisation in each financial year since March 1966 was as follows:
Between 1956 and 30 June 1970 a total of 8562 non-European residents of Australia had been granted citizenship by naturalisation.
Papua and New Guinea: Naturalisation (Question No. 2417)
asked the Minister for
Immigration, upon notice:
How many persons of each nationality were granted Australian citizenship by naturalisation in the Territory of Papua and New Guinea in 1970?
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
The table hereunder shows the number of persons of each nationality granted Australian citizenship by naturalisation in the Territory of Papua and New Guinea in 1970.
asked the Minister for Immigration, upon notice:
How many persons in the United Kingdom have:
applied for and
been granted second assisted passages since the Inception of the scheme.
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
The second assisted passage scheme was introduced with effect from May 1968. Applications for assistance and approvals given have related to the following number of persons:
asked the Minister for Immigration, upon notice:
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
The various measures followed to encourage eligible persons to apply for naturalisation were outlined in the answer given in Hansard on 1st October 1970 to Question No.’ 1617.
asked the Minister for Immigration, upon notice:
What has been the outcome of the consultations between his Department and the Department of Education and Science on Professor W. F. Connell’s proposals in his paper ‘Education for Adult Migrants’ (Hansard 5th May 1970, page 1646).
– The answer to the honourable member’s question is as follows:
The consultations to which 1 referred in my reply to the earlier question by the Honourable Member (Hansard 5th May 1970, page 1646) related to 2 matters - first, vocational education and second, the question of allowances being paid to migrant students attending part-time accelerated courses (or, as Professor Connell referred to them, semi-intensive courses).
There has been an increase in the provision ot part-time accelerated courses, in line with the policy of providing facilities for more intensive forms of instruction as against the continuation programme spread over 18 months, and as one way of combating the high abandonment rate which was a feature of the continuation programme. Already part-time accelerated courses have been established in the Westbridge, East Hills and Cabramatta hostels, in the State Migrant Education Centres in Melbourne and Sydney, and at Wollongong and Geelong, catering in all for some 1,200 migrant students. We are planning to establish further courses shortly in Brisbane, Mount lsa, Newcastle, Adelaide and Perth.
The part-time accelerated courses provide for 4 hours instruction 5 days a week in the morning or afternoon (16 weeks duration) or for 2 hours in the evening 3 nights a week (20 weeks duration). The day-time courses which are particularly suited to migrant workers engaged on shift work provide in all a course of 320 hours (equivalent to the full-lime intensive course). The evening courses, which are used more by migrant women otherwise engaged during the day and by migrant workers who have completed a normal working day, provide instruction only for 120 hours as it has been found that interest in the evening courses tends to wane more quickly. Nevertheless migrants attending the evening courses can continue to enrol in more advanced courses and thus complete the full programme of instruction.
It has not been possible to consider paying allowances to migrants attending the part-lime accelerated courses. Unlike those attending the full-time intensive courses (who are paid an allowance to cover accommodation and living expenses, and as compensation for loss of earning capacity), migrants attending the part-time courses continue to be employed and, as a general rule, suffer no loss of income. The possibility of providing some form of allowance to the migrants attending the part-time accelerated courses will be kept in mind in the event of any review of the policy.
Consideration is proceeding into the matters referred to by Professor Connell in the section of his paper dealing with ‘Vocational Preparation’. These involve however areas of policy in addition to migrant education (for example, the results of the Tregillis Mission on overseas training and the work of the Committee on Overseas Professional Qualifications) and the studies involved must the refine be seen as essentially a long term project
Cite as: Australia, House of Representatives, Debates, 10 March 1971, viewed 22 October 2017, <http://historichansard.net/hofreps/1971/19710310_reps_27_hor71/>.